Oh, really Mr. President? It is a good thing I caught a glimpse of what economists think in a Bloomberg article ten days ago with a typically misleading heading for the left leaning rag that it is: Obama Jobs Plan Prevents 2012 Recession In Survey Of Economists. The article itself was of not much value to me as nothing much that left wing Bloomberg says ever impresses me, however the table showing the consensus of economists at the end of the article was very revealing:
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Table of Forecasts
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GDP GDP Jobs (thous) UR Change
2012 2013 2012 2013 2012 2013
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Median 0.6 0.2 275 13 -0.2 -0.1
Count 34 30 28 28 28 26
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Action Eco 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
AIG 0.7 0.1 250 100 -0.5 -0.2
Aletti 0.4 0.0 n/a n/a n/a n/a
Anderson Eco 0.5 0.5 500 500 -0.5 n/a
BBVA 1.3 0.9 900 900 -0.8 -0.7
BNP Paribas 0.5 -0.3 500 -300 n/a n/a
Clearview Eco 0.8 0.8 750 750 -0.5 -0.5
DB 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Econoclast 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Euler Hermes 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Fact & Opinion 0.5 0.5 500 1,000 -0.1 -0.3
Faifield n/a n/a 300 200 -0.2 -0.3
Fannie Mae 0.7 0.0 500 0 0.0 0.0
Goldberg Inv n/a n/a 150 100 n/a n/a
Goldman Sachs 1.5 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
Guerrilla 1.5 -1.0 200 0 -0.2 n/a
H. Johnson 0.2 0.3 25 45 0.2 0.2
JP Morgan 0.1 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
MacroEco 1.3 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
MacroFin 1.5 1.5 1,000 1,000 -1.0 -1.0
Manulife 1.5 0.5 2,000 700 -1.0 -0.3
Mizuho 0.2 0.0 n/a n/a n/a n/a
Moodys 2.0 1.0 1,000 0 -1.0 -0.4
NFIB 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Niagara 1.0 0.1 125 0 0.0 0.0
Nord 0.4 0.5 n/a n/a -0.2 -0.4
Parsanec 0.5 0.5 1,100 700 -1.0 -0.5
Pierpont 0.3 0.0 50 0 -0.2 0.0
Raymond James 0.3 0.2 350 25 -0.5 -0.1
SPSU 0.9 0.1 110 0 0.0 0.0
SocGen 1.7 0.8 1 1 -0.4 -0.2
State Street 1.2 -1.0 340 -370 -0.2 0.3
Standard Charter 1.0 0.5 600 300 0.0 0.0
Unicredit 2.0 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
W Hummer 0.2 0.2 150 200 -0.1 -0.1
J Forest 1.0 1.0 n/a n/a -1.0 -0.5
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Table of Forecasts
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GDP GDP Jobs (thous) UR Change
2012 2013 2012 2013 2012 2013
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Median 0.6 0.2 275 13 -0.2 -0.1
Count 34 30 28 28 28 26
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Action Eco 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
AIG 0.7 0.1 250 100 -0.5 -0.2
Aletti 0.4 0.0 n/a n/a n/a n/a
Anderson Eco 0.5 0.5 500 500 -0.5 n/a
BBVA 1.3 0.9 900 900 -0.8 -0.7
BNP Paribas 0.5 -0.3 500 -300 n/a n/a
Clearview Eco 0.8 0.8 750 750 -0.5 -0.5
DB 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Econoclast 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Euler Hermes 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Fact & Opinion 0.5 0.5 500 1,000 -0.1 -0.3
Faifield n/a n/a 300 200 -0.2 -0.3
Fannie Mae 0.7 0.0 500 0 0.0 0.0
Goldberg Inv n/a n/a 150 100 n/a n/a
Goldman Sachs 1.5 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
Guerrilla 1.5 -1.0 200 0 -0.2 n/a
H. Johnson 0.2 0.3 25 45 0.2 0.2
JP Morgan 0.1 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
MacroEco 1.3 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
MacroFin 1.5 1.5 1,000 1,000 -1.0 -1.0
Manulife 1.5 0.5 2,000 700 -1.0 -0.3
Mizuho 0.2 0.0 n/a n/a n/a n/a
Moodys 2.0 1.0 1,000 0 -1.0 -0.4
NFIB 0.0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0
Niagara 1.0 0.1 125 0 0.0 0.0
Nord 0.4 0.5 n/a n/a -0.2 -0.4
Parsanec 0.5 0.5 1,100 700 -1.0 -0.5
Pierpont 0.3 0.0 50 0 -0.2 0.0
Raymond James 0.3 0.2 350 25 -0.5 -0.1
SPSU 0.9 0.1 110 0 0.0 0.0
SocGen 1.7 0.8 1 1 -0.4 -0.2
State Street 1.2 -1.0 340 -370 -0.2 0.3
Standard Charter 1.0 0.5 600 300 0.0 0.0
Unicredit 2.0 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
W Hummer 0.2 0.2 150 200 -0.1 -0.1
J Forest 1.0 1.0 n/a n/a -1.0 -0.5
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Let's see.....
The administration estimates that the bill will create about 1.9 million jobs. With the exception of a few economists who have enough integrity not to venture a wild assed guess based on faulty (because you cannot model human behavior, especially when the administration in charge is actively destroying the free market system) econometric models, the range of estimates for what the nearly half a trillion dollar bill would create in the way of jobs is huge: from job losses of 30,000 to job gains of 2.7 million. The median estimate of new jobs estimates is 288,000 over two years at an approximate cost of quarter of a million dollars per job! Even if those jobs were created, stimulus can at best create temporary jobs that are hugely expensive - not the productive type that free markets create.
With wildly varying estimates, I don't know about you but that is no consensus in my book.
While at the subject of jobs, the Labor Department reported that there were 108,000 newly created jobs in September. Exactly 28 years ago, a year after the deep 1982 recession, economy added 1.1 million jobs in September 1983. The difference between then and now isn't the magnitude of the recessions but the policies the U.S. pursued to restore growth. Under Reagan, tax rates were cut, loopholes were closed, regulations were eased, and government was in retreat. Today, we've had a spending and regulatory boom, the threat of higher tax rates, and a hostile, antibusiness political climate. Policies have consequences, Mr. President.
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Obama is quite simply, a liar. At his core, he is a serial liar and will say anything to anyone to further his cause.
He knows absolutely everyting about nothing.
Patriot,
What I find amazing is that in September there were 108,000 jobs created, but each week, over 400,000 people applied for new unemployment benefits. My math is considerably better than Mr. Obama's. That works out to over 1.1 million negative jobs in September. I can't imagine why anyone is listening to economists or Obama.
I am proud to have signed the CATO ad back in 2009: http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/alternate_version.html
Yesterday, the Nobel committee redeemed themselves by awarding the Economics prize to Sargent and Sims, the two modern economists who did much to dismantle the imaginary inflation/output trade-off peddled by Keynesian full employment fairy tale (among other things ;-)
So, in a moment of crisis and amnesia, the lessons of the 70s were swept under the rug. It was as if Hayek had never won the Nobel prize decades after his original arguments against the planner/interventionist cadre. It seems like the tide is turning.
So, Mr. President, any economist who's not looking to land a job in your government is unlikely to agree with the rubbish you are pushing.
Nobel committee is psychotic. Occasionally they will award a prize to an economist who merits it but usually they are a joke (as Krugman's prize indicates)
I am always put down by my Keynesian economist friends because I am not a big fan of econometrics. I adhere to the classical school (could say symphatize with Austrian school to some extent) My contention is that unless you understand not only economic theory, but have a classical training in sociology, psychology, history, logic, etc. you do not have the equipment necessary to model anything. They claim that I have no arguments because I do not live my life by economic models. It is neverthless a riot when I ask them to test their hypothesis by measuring the accuracy of their models against empirical evidence. To them, that means simply drawing a graph to re emphasize their points.
Talking to a Keynesian is like talking to a 5 year old.
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